what happened to the roter for text navigation? help!

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Before the latest upgrade, I was able to navigate textedit documents via paragraph and sentence using quick nav and the roter. It seems I can know longer do this. I did a google research and the updated voiceover guide says there is a way to do it with the trackpad, but this was not successful either. I am a uni student so being able to navigate documents quickly is vital! I'm in my final year too. Please help? Thanks in advance!

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Submitted by Dawn on Friday, October 7, 2016

Hello!

I have not seen this problem however, I've had my issues with ios 10. I may have a few ideas.

1. If you have an accessibility tech support line where you live, contact them.
2. Try shutting down your device & restarting it. It's helped me before when my ipad's been on the fritz & acting a bit flaky I'll reboot it & for the most part, things seem right as rain again! Never hurts to try.
3. This may seem a little weird. Try going into your Vo. settings & then your rotor settings & then turning your quick nav options off then back on again.

I don't know why yours would be doing that! I'm kind of having my own issues. With the rotor I used to b able to move by links in Safari. Well, I went to that option, & it said `open on other side` or ,activate default`

I called tech support & they were just as faffled as I was! Also, jhe new way of moving apps is still not working for me. Right now, I'm waiting until I can take my ipad to my nearest Apple store, but that's an hour drive from where I live. And for obvious reasons, it's hard to get a ride up there.

I'm also wondering if they've changed things & we just have to re-learn them.

Also, turn on vertical navigation p see if that fixes it. And if all else fails, try going to your quick nav option (Ex paragraph) & instead of going up & down, go left or right. This one may seem a little unorthodox but it worked with the Safari problem until somehow it just started working again after I cleared the cookies.

Best of luck & hope this helps.

Submitted by Nicholas on Friday, October 7, 2016

Member of the AppleVis Blog Team

Speaking for myself:
I have been reporting this for many betas now. Sentence and Paragraph navigation is gone from the Mac QuickNav Rotor. I can not say much more than that, except, please report this to Apple.
Use the Feedback Assistant included with the betas. Or email to: accessibility@apple.com.

Submitted by Maldalain on Saturday, October 8, 2016

I did report this with Apple. It's really bad when there's a feature that is really useful and it is no longer there in an OS that's supposed to be a huge leap in terms of accessibility. Now for what you can do in order to navigate by sentence or paragraph in TextEdit or Pages, here's the bad news:
To navigate to next sentence, you need to press command+options+CTRL+function key+down arrow. Yes, there're five keys. Up arrow for the previous sentence.
To navigate to the next paragraph, options+ctrl+shift+function key+down arrow, additional five keys. Up arrow for the previous paragraph.
Well, I suppose I need to use my piano skills when reading a book or navigating through lengthy document. Thanks Apple.

Submitted by Nicholas on Saturday, October 8, 2016

Member of the AppleVis Blog Team

Thank you for the heads up! I'll see if I can rent some extra fingers soon. :-)
I am glad you reported it, been a pet-peeve of mine for a while.
A thought, I used Keyboard Commander, with right-option key. Then in the Commands Table, made a custom shortcut on the "/" key, which are both next to the QuickNav arrow keys.
In the Commands menu button, arrow down to the "Text" sub-menu, choose "Read next paragraph". That's it, now you can press "right-option-/" to read the next paragraph. The VO cursor will be at the top of the last paragraph read.
I know, it is a work-around, but it becomes comfortable quickly.