Greetings!
Ten years ago, a user among the Window-Eyes Talk list (formally the GW-Info List) had an archive of all available apps/scripts for the Window-Eyes screen reader.
Of course, the link to said archive is no more and any official links (besides ones captured by the Wayback Machine) are deep underground.
Considering the company we're now dealing with, could someone be so kind to please send them over to DataJake or throw them up on the Internet Archive somewhere?
I found out that Window-Eyes 9.5.4 (talking the Windo-Eyes for Office version), does work on Windows 11, shockingly.
And if the gods among the AppleVis universe have to/wish for me to vanish this thread even though I legally own 6 versions of Window-Eyes on physical media from back in the day...
well...
Hey, I tried.
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I only have one question...
Why?
Why would you want to use Window Eyes?
OK, so that sort of two questions, but really they're just the same question. Still, my question is valid. Please answer. Inquiring minds, and all that jazz. π
I only have one Answer...
Nostalgia!
Of course I am using NVDA primarily (alongside Narrator.)
If any other reason, think of it like...
If Michael Phisher (Mr. Mobile/Captain2Phones) can do throwbacks of his favorite phones from back in the day & celebrate it with the world, why can't we blind folks do the same with Assistive Tech software?
agreed
Exactly! What that data jake guy does is awesome! I never thought anyone would archive AT stuff like that. I wish his site was a little easier to make sense of though, instead of just being a big FTP directory.
I went looking for an old tutorial from BCT there but didn't find it, although there was a lot of other stuff there that I had forgotten about. I went back and listened to the episode of Main Menu when the PAC Mate got revealed, as well as the review when it came out. Holy nostalgia rush! I remember being so hyped for that, and eventually getting one and it not quite seeming to me like it was all it was cracked up to be.
I think it's good to preserve this stuff so we can look back at where we've been and how we got here. In an era where everyone constantly complains, it shows us how good we actually have it today.
For Clarity
Rod Hutton (who I only know by name and I think was a WE apps/scripts creator), was the last person to have said full archive. If anyone else does, I have no clue.
I truly hope that we don't have a case of lost media.
One Of My All-Time Fav WE Apps
, was Jeff Bishops WinAmp scripts.
He put so much care into those.
Second to that one, I pick the Window-Eyes Virtual Viewer.
And hey...
I ain't expecting any of us to write new apps/scripts anytime soon, but one can dream.
@Trenton
Fair enough. In my defense, many, many moons ago, my ex and I had a copy of Window Eyes that was free because she had a licensed copy of Open Book from Freedom Scientific. It was an absolute nightmare to use on her copy of Windows 7, so I may perhaps have posted from a traumatized past experience. π π
@Brian
Ah... The below comparison of Open Book vs K1000 might just be up your alley!
https://afb.org/aw/4/1/14874
Reading it myself from back in the day (and again just now), I can understand why I always preferred Kurzweil 1000 over (Open Book.
window-eyes
Hey guys,
during my years at FSDB, I used to use window-eyes. I didn't use Jaws until gratuation. I still used window-eyes as backup if Jaws was acting up.
@Trenton, Re: Kurzweil
Early in my college career, I had an iPad, an iPad 2 if memory serves.. don't laugh.
Anyways it had Kurzweil3000 loaded on it by the University. They would have the publisher of my textbooks scanned into a PDF format, then the disabilities department would load those PDFs onto the app, thus allowing me to have accessible e-book versions of my textbooks for my classes.
While it was not the best experience, it was.. functional. Later I went on to use DocUScan plus, which I found to be a lot more efficient for my use case.
Kurzweil3000 was not bad, mind you, but I swear the controls on it were designed for side of people. Instead of gestures, there were buttons for everything. Need to change a page, double tap the next page button. Need to scroll down, double tap the scroll button, etc., etc. it got even more convoluted if you needed to navigate by characters, words, etc. Because there were buttons for all of those as well... π€―
I remember curse by 1000
I remember using Kurzweil 1000. My first version of that was 4.0 and it used the flex. Talk voices. Those were absolutely awful. I remember the exact order that those voices.. Thatβs how much I used to play around with them. They were Keith Bell, David, Daniela, Gabriella, Ian, Michael, Joseph, John, Patricia, Peter, Daisy, Megan, Bob, and Jerry Watson. My favorite Voice is in that were Daisy and Megan Carrie Watson out Michael and Joseph. Gabrielle and Gabriella and Daniela were awful. I donβt miss those at all and I have no wish to have them back. I didnβt use clothes as well again until version 10 and it had a few different speech engines. There was IBM via voice, which is literally like the older version of the eloquent voices and there was Voice sweater and I donβt remember other speeches but I know there was definitely those two, but that was back in high school. 1000 I was like 4.0 I was like so yeah. I was briefly introduced to open book but I definitely prefer Kurt while over open book for sure. I donβt use any kind of scanning software at all anymore. But yeah, I think we deserved to be able to hear the nostalgic screen readers and voices and things that we used to use I mean, people do it all the time, TVs and cameras and whatever we could do the same thing for us. I mean Appleβs kind of allowing that now we have all of the old Mac voices on the phones so why not