Where does the page down key work?

By Khomus, 13 August, 2025

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So I'm in TextEdit. I must have bumped a key because I was away from where I was last time. No problem, I'll use page up. I've used an iClever BK-10 and I'm now using an Apple Magic keyboard. In both cases, though fn-up is reported as page up, it doesn't seem to do anything. The cursor doesn't move. I've interacted with the text in the editor. Luckily home and end seem to work, but it's really weird that pgdn and pgup don't seem to move the cursor at all, anywhere that I've found so far.

Am I missing something? Or does Mac just not use these keys for anything?

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By jim pickens on Wednesday, August 13, 2025 - 11:06

I haven't tried this but I believe using the vo modifier along with page up and down should do... something, I'm not just not sure what it is. I think vo+page key is up and down while adding shift switches it to left and right. vo+command+ page key might be paragraph navigation, I'm not sure if you need to use shift with it or if shift does something when pressed with vo+command+page key. sentence navigation? Maybe?

By Khomus on Wednesday, August 13, 2025 - 14:21

I'm not even thinking of VO commands at this point. But yes, VO-pgup moves the VO cursor up a page, and VO-shift-pgup reads the previous paragraph. But I'd think that if I'm in an editing window, e.g. TextEdit, pgup by itself would move up a page/screen of text. It doesn't seem to do anything though. Weird.

By Cowboy on Wednesday, August 13, 2025 - 15:41

I actually posted about this and email a while back, and I never got any responses.

I'm frustrated that in both apple mail and outlook you can't page up and down to skip through multiple emails at once.

By jim pickens on Wednesday, August 13, 2025 - 18:34

Maybe it visually moves but the voice over cursor registers nothing… Very possible given apples amazing track record of intuitive and usable text editing. Thanks Apple, your it just works philosophy really applies here.

By PaulMartz on Wednesday, August 13, 2025 - 18:37

I know of two uses.

One, in Keynote, PageUp and PageDown move between slides.

Two, VO+Shift+PageUp and PageDown read previous and next paragraph. This works in TextEdit, native Mail client message composition windows, Apple Pages, and Scrivener. Unfortunately, this functionality has been slowly degrading over the past couple of major releases. In particular, they tend to misbehave when the paragraph is less than a single line of text. Works fine for long paragraphs though. I've opened this as a feedback report. If Tahoe fixes it, I'll pop the cork on this bottle of champagne.

By Khomus on Wednesday, August 13, 2025 - 19:56

pgup and pgdn change pages in Preview. Next time I hook up to the TV I'll see if I can remember and have my wife check if they move visually in something like TextEdit. Seems odd that they'd move in Preview but not through standard text, but there you go.