Mac for musician - yes or no?

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Hi all! I'm from Poland, and I'm a new person here, so it is possible to make some mistakes - if yes, i'm sorry for it.
My main question is about Mac and Macos for musicians. I know the operation system is working with VO, I allso made some research in this forum so I know, that Protools and Logic pro are allso aplications generally accessible with VO. So we can make some audio edition, but what with writting a scores? I have idea to make it by Symphony pro, on iPhone by using the keybord, because Symphony is accessible i thing? But what with a Musescore, are there some even small changes? Is this program usefull in any way? Sibelius has not VO suport, I gues... Please, tell me some general things: Mac for musician - pianist, keyboardist - is it a good choice? What wyth Mainstage? What should I know, what works, what not? Best wishes!



Submitted by Igna Triay on Saturday, July 6, 2019

Hi. Whenever I use my mac for music, I connect my mac to my riano, and record using logic. I know protools is accessible, but haven't really tried using it. I'm good with logic at the moment. I would say go ahead. Hth. O, and about the music scores... In logic pro, when you record what you play, logic records the notes you play, and shows them to you so you can see what you played.

Submitted by Patryk M. on Saturday, July 6, 2019

In reply to by Igna Triay

Man, I think it would be really good news. But please tell me: what you mean, if you say, that Logic pro shows you notes you allready played? You can see pitch and some kind of rythmical notation, and at the end export to music xml for example? If there are are fully, or even not fully accessible programs, i will try to change computer... Thanks for answer!

Submitted by chris R on Saturday, July 6, 2019

Yes, I believe you can do the things you mention. The best way of editing midi notes is with the piano roll though. You can transpose notes, change the lengths and positions and many other things with key commands and voice-over will even read many of the parameters.

Submitted by Patryk M. on Saturday, July 6, 2019

Great! After edition like this, I can even add for example some chord symbols using the only usable program to writting a scores. But what with reading? If you get xml file, in which there are not only notes, but allso some chord symbols, like "fmin7", or a kind of notation without sound pitches? Generally: what do you do, to read specially jazz, pop or rock music with symbols?

Submitted by Brandon X on Sunday, July 7, 2019

Hello i am a assistive tech instructor in training and have a client Who wants to do music production. I what version of Logic pro are accessible and if there is a list of commands for logic pro with voiceover for Macos.aa

Submitted by Mara on Sunday, July 7, 2019

Hello- If you want to use logic pro, use the latest version. It is not that intuitive. If I were your student I would actually start with GarageBand, i.e. assuming they are new to production.
Re Muse Score, the latest stable version 3 is accessible with Vo. So far I have only figured out how to enter notes, play back the score and not much else.

Submitted by Patryk M. on Sunday, July 7, 2019

Mara, so do you wand to tell, that in musescore on Mac, I can hear notes, measures number, beat, rythm notation, and for example the chord symbols, or a drumset notation? If really yes, it could be a good news! Tell something more about the Musescore.

Submitted by Erion on Tuesday, July 9, 2019

I realize that this is a bit disheartening to read, especially on an Apple-prevalent forum, however, my answer to your question is no, do not switch to a Mac for music composing.
While Apple hardware is great, the operating system is lagging behind iOS, which is understandable, as Apple's main focus is visibly not desktop computing at this time.

The two dominant DAWs that are used on a Mac are Logic Pro and Protools. Protools is great for audio editing, however, not so much when it comes to accessible midi and notation editing. Logic Pro is used to be the best a few years ago, providing features that you could not find anywhere else. Nowadays, this is not the case anymore.

Logic Pro is, for the most part, accessible. The latest version has major issues and it often becomes unresponsive for a lot of people. It comes with a ton of usable loops and instruments, it has a few very nice plugins, especially the recently added reverb and rhythm ones. Where it really falls short is productivity. Apple's design philosophy of putting everything in one window and switching between the various areas makes Logic extremely convoluted, especially for a first-time user.
The note editor is accessible, but there are a few quirks that really make it slow. For example, selecting/copying or pasting notes, adjusting various values, for example length, or velocity, as the focus often does not stay where you would expect it to when performing an operation, and you have to move back to the note you were previously editing.
I am really happy that Apple made Logic usable, however, this is a situation where it would be extremely useful if we had VoiceOver-specific information available, rather than just have access to the interface.
Under Windows, Reaper provides more relevant information in a lot of cases, and production speed is miles better. This is mostly because Reaper accessibility is maintained by a visually impaired developer, and accessibility goes beyond just exposing the interface to a screen reader.
Reaper is also available on the Mac, but there are a few things that will not work as well as they do under Windows. For example, if you use a Komplete Kontrol keyboard, there is no Reaper integration available. There is, however, support for Logic Pro.
If you are dealing with a lot of instruments or plugins, you will notice that most of the time the interface will not be keyboard-accessible. OCR can help in this situation, which is unfortunately not as good under MacOS, as a third-party solution.

This is just the DAW-side, if you are looking for a note editor application, things might be different, as in a DAW, for example, you do not have left or right hand separation, etc.

If you would like to switch to a Mac, mainly because of music composing, I personally do not think that the Mac would offer anything extra at this time.

Hope this helps!

Submitted by Special K on Tuesday, July 9, 2019

For scoring music, I'd say stick with what you know in Windows. If you want to do some serious multitrack work, I say switch to Pro Tools on the Mac. Logic is definitely clunky. Reaper's great, but there's a reason we all like Pro Tools. It just works!

Submitted by Patryk M. on Tuesday, July 9, 2019

In reply to by Erion

Thank you for answer. If I understand, there are not even a bit accessible note editor, so may be do you know some program to read xml files which somebody is sending to me? I'm not a composer, so the main things I do are pieces for a jazz combo - not so complicated notation. If on Musescore with the NVDA support on Windows i can do it mostly without any accessibility - i don't have to check every note, I can do it allso on Mac. BTW: with NVDA support you can see number of measure, chord symbolls, pitches and the rythm notation, but you can't for example change a time signature while writting a score... Windows isn't the topic of this forum - sorry. But, the main thing is, that on Windows there aren't much more things to do with a score edition. May be there is some possibility to read a scores on Mac? Generally, accessibility for scoring music is more, than bad in my opinion.

What do you thing about live playing on the stage with vst(Mainstage, or some diffrent programs)? Hardware is gread, as you said, but what with accessibility? For Windows it isn't so good, because of accessibility and stability i thing. But may be I'm not right? Working with audio, music production is allso interesting for me - scoring is important, but may be Windows and Mac os could be a good idea?

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