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Accessibility regression with Ulysses 27

By Skippy, 22 June, 2022

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iOS and iPadOS

Hello everyone,
I've been a user of the Ulysses writing app for a few years now, & absolutely love it.
However, something is causing me to consider exporting all my data & cancelling my subscription.
The issue that's causing me to think this way, is the fact that the suggestions the app provides are no longer accessible to voiceover.
They are still in a list view, as they were previously, but for some unknown reason, voiceover can no longer access them.
I plan to tweet the developers right now, to alert them of this. And will let you guys know what they say.
This message serves as both a warning, as well as an opinion piece, because I want to know from you guys, what do you think I should do?
How should I proceed?

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They do seem pretty…

By The Oliver Kennett

7 months 2 weeks ago

They do seem pretty responsive. Subscribing to this post, if you could let us all know the results, that will be awesome.

I use ulysses on the Mac and agree it's awesome. Still, it's not the easiest to run a review on a document for proofing etc.

Quasi-Off-Topic

By Voracious P. Brain

7 months 1 week ago

My workflow has me using Ulysses on Mac at present, where the spelling suggestions (if that's what's being referred to) appear to be fine. On IOS, I've always just used the IOS built-in "misspelled words" rotor. Does this still work?
I didn't even realize Ulysses has its own spelling/grammar on IOS. I'd be interested to know if you're referring to a different feature that I don't know about.
Pardon me for momentarily abducting this thread, but For Oliver and any other Mac Ulysses users, VO goes silent and loses its handle on screen objects whenever I hit cmd+Z to undo. The Ulysses folks tried to replicate it and couldn't. Is it just me?
Another side note: I played with the new tables feature in version 27, for which the markup is (tbl). Arrow-key navigation requires you to go down through all the rows before coming out the other side, and there's no column/row coordinates when navigating this way. However, object navigation will report landing on a table object, and interacting shows two sub objects: the table size indicator, where VO+Shift+M expands a handy menu for manipulating the table; and the table itself, ready to be interacted with in propper VO fashion.
FYI. Sorry I was too lazy to post this separately.

I can confirm the loss of…

By The Oliver Kennett

7 months 1 week ago

I can confirm the loss of voiceover focus with command Z.

Also, there is review mode, command shift R on Mac, that looks at style, grammar, spelling and so on. It's in the dashboard. This is the most powerful part of the app, in my opinion, as every other style/proof checker is inaccessible, as far as I know.

Be warned, there is a lot of feeling about with VoiceOver to get it working. I think it's better on iPad but on Mac it's a little convoluted.

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