Hi all. I'm sticking this in the IOS category as this topic somewhat came up on another post. I thought of starting a new topic. As blind people, are we doing ourselves a disadvantage by not learning at least a few sighted gestures when it comes to any Apple product? Now not having a watch I can't comment, but let's take IOS You just got Mom the iPad mini she wants, now you offer to help. You need voice over, she doesn't. Someone made the point that they had a hard time explaining what they wanted their parent to do because they had no icon on the screen that says, Share, or bookmark, or something like that. My honest thought, we don't want to learn it. we don't want to become visual. Why would it not make some sense to say to parent, "I know you heard it say bookmark, what does it look like when my finger is on that icon?" I'm not expecting us to know that we want the creamiest eggshell paint in the kitchen of our new place, but a robin's egg blue in the bedroom, but just becoming a little more on the sighted working surface with everyone else, just seems sensible. Otherwise, we're really letting others see just how much we rely on things and not think outside the box and just have a thought, ok I know it's na icon so what do we do to help the person? Why else would a totally blind woman have written Get the Picture, a book that gasp, shows even totally blind people how to take beautiful photos. I'm not trying to start a war though I'm sure I will, I'm good that it. Please consider that i'm trying to show people we care that we want the colors of our clothes to match we picked out the furniture because it goes with the walls, not asked a sighted trusted friend or family member or spouse, with the old adage, "he/she can see."