Hi,
So I use windows for a few projects but am looking into the future when I get an M1 mac which means no bootcamp and no virtualisation. My plan is to get a windows box, going to set it up as a sort of server but would also like to be able to access it remotely.
What are the solutions to this? I've heard something about NVDA Remote but is that only for IOS and iPad?
Any help you can provide will be much appreciated.
O
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Jump Desktop
You can use Jump Desktop. It's paid, but gives you stereo, low-latency audio when connecting to Windows. You can even use it from an iPad.
And, because you mentioned no virtualization, it's certainly possible with both Parallels and VM Ware Fusion using Windows on ARM. Parallels is pretty straight forward, but Fusion is harder, but I much prefer it.
Oh, it was my understanding…
Oh, it was my understanding that there was limitations to virtualisation because of ARM? My concern would be that the applications I use are only really available for mainstream... Besides, VM performance isn't great. My ope was to have a windows box to tinker with on site and then control it from a distance solving both problems.
i'll check out that app suggestion. Thanks.
O
Remote Desktop
Download Microsoft Remote Desktop from the Mac App Store.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-remote-desktop/id1295203466?mt=12
It's accessible with VoiceOver, though there are a few controls that could have better labels. Fill in your connection info and once connected, choose open from one of the more buttons that should make a menu appear. After you open the remote connection, turn VoiceOver off so it doesn't conflict with the Windows screen reader or other keyboard commands. When you want to switch back to macOS, just press Command+Tab and turn VoiceOver back on. I'm pretty sure this is a universal app, so it should work with ARM Macs.
You'll of course need to set up a Windows machine as an RDP server. You'll need at least a professional edition of Windows and will have to either configure port forwarding or a VPN since it's peer-to-peer.
Setup a virtual machine
A viable and simple solution to this dilemma is to set up a Windows virtual machine on your upcoming M1 Mac, either by purchasing a copy of Parallels Desktop (officially supported) or by installing a free copy of the VMware Fusion Tech Preview and using advanced configuration steps to get it to run Windows (unsupported but still works for the time being). The OP's statement of "no virtualization" support on M1 processors is simply inaccurate.
Parallels Desktop, for example, allows you to set up a Windows 11 on ARM Insider Preview virtual machine, complete with sound, that can then be used to run traditional Windows applications including NVDA and NVDA Remote. The main application user interface is not accessible (due to the fact it was written using the QT framework), but an application like VOCR can be used to mitigate this issue and set up the Windows virtual machine. Performance is comparable to running Windows virtual machines on Intel Macs, and will of course improve with time as both Parallels Desktop and the Windows 11 on ARM Insider Preview are updated.
Alternatively, if free options are desired, the VMware Fusion Tech Preview can be set up and, through a series of steps, the Windows 11 on ARM Insider Preview can be installed to provide another way to virtualize Windows on macOS. VMware Fusion is natively accessible with VoiceOver, but only Linux operating systems are officially supported in the current version of the Tech Preview, so your mileage may vary on getting Windows up and running, though it is possible and has been confirmed to work well.
As an aside, the exclusive deal between Microsoft and Qualcomm that prevented Microsoft from licensing Windows on ARM to other chip manufacturers is reportedly coming to an end soon, and this may allow Microsoft to license Windows on ARM to Apple so that a native way to run Windows on macOS could once again be made available.
Team Viewer Quick Support
is the app Sweetwater tech support and I use when I need them to take control of my Mac to fix a problem. Open the app on the slave computer to get the id and pw, enter the id and pw into the app on the master computer, and voila. The master controls the slave. Note: you should get better results if you turn off vo on the slave computer after getting the id and pw to enter into the master's app.
Joy!
has anyone get the microsoft…
has anyone get the microsoft remote desktop client to work? you can connect but when connected you are taken to the finder window
Microsoft Remote Desktop client
I'm having the same issue with the Microsoft Remote Desktop Client on an M1 MacBook Pro running Monterey. I have configured a Remote Desktop connection, and I try and open it, it complains about the certificate which I just "Continue" past, it appears to be connecting and then just bounces me to the Finder window.
I might give Jump Desktop a try.
My backup plan was to just build a VMware ESXI server and connect to it with VMware Fusion, and run my Windows VM remotely via VMware, though I'm not sure what the latency would be like compared to running the VM locally on my Mac, and also the increased latency when I am out of the office and trying to run the VM over a VPN might get interesting.
Running an ARM build of Windows 11 is also another option, though the installation process looks like a bit of a headache, it certainly doesn't have the streamlined Easy Install approach of Windows 10 on the Intel Macs.
I'm very interested to hear how other people are solving the problem of running both Windows and OSX in an Apple silicone world.
windows on arm?
How do Jaws and NVDA work with windows on arm as opposed to virtualization? I've been really interested in apple silicon and can totally see myself going that route eventually if windows support is viable enough.
RE: Windows on ARM
I'm not sure about JAWS, I don't use that product, but NVDA is meant to run fine on ARM builds of Windows 11.