Apple Releases iOS 16.2 and iPadOS 16.2; Bringing Some Bug Fixes for VoiceOver Users

Did they fix VO not reading notification on the lock screen? Did not see anything about it on the bugs address.

If they didn't, I'm no worse off. If they did, I gain. I'll post an answer as soon as I can unless someone beats me to it.

The answer looks like yes. It is fix so far. I get my notifications without no issues. VO is reading them. Happy. It only took 2 months for Apple to fix. Sad.

It takes time to fix things. Apple fixes them it just takes time.

If the issue with notification affected sighted people in which they can not se any notification on the lock screen, Apple would had release a fix.

So happy braille bugs are fixed. It is going to be very good for me to get back into my usual braille display enter key habits. Good job, Apple!

I just updated both my devices. News about the braille display problems? About to test it myself right at the end of this line...
Later: After a powering off and back on of my Brailliant BI 40X it seems that the only time this bug is resolved is that in a non-multiline textfield such as the one in the messages app the message can send with dot8. If I'm missing something please let me know.

I am not running version 2 I am running v1.12 something or other. Thought people may like to know.

I don't know about you, but ever since updating to IOS16 the calendar widget has had alot of extraneous text on it, making it abit difficult to navigate past it. This seems to have been fixed in 16.2.

well,
I found thatin IOS 16 that when we call someone in the call history tap in the phone.
it sometime call the wrong person.

I have not use this for a long time. I use Siri to make calls. I will test this next week.

AccessWarrior, if you are able to I really would update to version 2 of the brailliant firmware. Aside from fixing these frustrating braille problems it really is a good update, the addition of TTS I really like.

I lost my iPhone shutdown sound after upgrading to iOS 16.2. Oh well.

I had no idea the Brailliants have tts. How do I activate it? Does it have different voices to the brlNoteTouch+? If so, which ones? There are some voices not on the BrailleNote that I've had my eye on.
Also, will they ever fix these bugs for users below humanware v2 or will I be stuck with these bugs forever unless I update?

Sadly, I must report that this was a false alarm. Here's what happened. I installed the GM the day it came out (I believe last Tuesday) and after resetting the Brailliant, everything worked as it would have if these bugs were present. This morning, while typing something, I noticed dot 8 again brought up that menu. Now that it has done this, all 3 of htese bugs are back for me. This is running firmware 2.0 on a Brailliant BI20X. These are the joys of being the only active braille tester on the team. My apologies to anyone who may have already upgraded and experiencing these issues! I can only report things as I encounter them.

One workaround for now if you don't want to call the wrong person with the current focus issues in the phone app (I got this from an other thread on applevis):
Flick for more info in the VoiceOver actions rotor, then make sure that the name on the info screen is the person you wish to call, then proceed to call them. That way, even if focus is wrong, you can avoid misdialing.

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Malthe

Hey, I lost my soothing shutdown sound when shutting down my phone as well. Got the IPhone 13 here running 16.2. Oh well. Not needed but gunna miss that sound. Was nice while it lasted though... Hee.

Love how they dangled the carrot in front of the horse then snatched it back. Hoping my weird bug with the app sotre is gone but when I've loaded it twice, the account screen comes up but it's taking forever. Heard there was some down app stores, maybe I was lucky or something.

Nice to know that they fixed some issues but still can’t turn the volume up and down when on a phone call using the earpiece. This is ridiculous! I know it’s not a specific VoiceOver issue, but I really wish they would fix it. It’s so annoying when we’re now in 16.2.

I just upgraded to 16.2. On the iPhone 14 Pro, I still have a shut down sound, as well as the start up sound.
Jim

After upgrading to 16.2, I'm noticing that selecting a location in the weather app using the location chooser doesn't always work. Traditionally, I flick through the various locations using the location chooser. When I hear the one I want, I touch the top left corner of the screen and get the weather for that location. In 16.2, this does not work and the behavior is very inconsistent. Sometimes it reverts back to my current location and sometimes I get the last location in my list.
Is anyone else seeing this when using weather?
Jim

I was freaking out "I'm not on version too I'll have to stick with these bugs forever!" Glad that's figured out. Thank you.

Hi! Does anyone know whether turning pages in Books app is back to normal again? This is one of the major reasons I haven’t updated to iOS 16. Thanks

Page numbers appear to be headings but you can't do anything with them. I tried to read a sample of The Paris Apartment by Kelly Bowen and I can't get more than a couple of sentences before the next page is announced, and then I'm at a dead end.

I use vo and Zoom, with Zoom turned on, when scrolling voiceover makes the scrolling sound and dubble tap sound at the same time, turning off zoom in the accessibility settings fixes it, this is why i love android so much, using an iPad 7th gen

Recent calls bug is still there. Hope it is fixed for 16.3

Just to add to another accessibility bug fixed, head tracking with AirPods Pro and max (sorry not sure if it's on standard AirPods) is fixed. Before, in accessibility, toggling this off had no effect. Now, if you cycle it, turn it on and off, it seems to resolve the issue. Helpful if we're not looking at the screen.

Or at least according to social media. I believe it because it is not in 16.3 either.

Still the same issue, calling wrong contact on the Phone app.

Not surprising the shutdown sound was an accident. Shutdown sound was supposed to be a fun bit of consumer manipulation to get people to get an iPhone 14 pro. "OH no, now everybody else have a shutdown sound now they won't buy a iphone 14!" That's why they got rid of it. Ah well, it was fun while it lasted.
As for the books app, i believe some improvements have been made. I purchased a new book recently and although it was laid out strangely I was able to turn the pages by threefinger swipe left/right and the associated commands on my braille display.

I wonder if the Braille bugs also affect the NLS EReader since it's basically a bi20x with its own software.

In my limitted playing with my display since upgrading to 16.2, everything behaves as expected. Letters work after emulating the command key, so I can do things like close a tab or go to the address bar in Safari, which hasn't worked for me for a while. I also tried command N to compose a new text and that worked.

Everywhere I've tried it, pressing dot 8 either sends a text as it should, or enters a new line (I tested this by trying to post a reply earlier here). I haven't seen that annoying context menu. FWIW, I recently updated my display to 2.0, where the main new feature is BookShare support in the display software itself, but that doesn't apply to using it as a display for another device.

I think I have the terminology right with that title heh. When I single finger press and hold to open a link in Safari the cursor will read that I'm on one thing in the menu that comes up while in reality it has jumped to the top of the menu (the "open" option). I've opened so many things when trying to open them in the background and lost my place on pages because I've had to go back and find what I was opening in the background all over again. How do they keep managing to make the focus issues so much worse with every update? It's honestly impressive at this point.

Kind of validates my theory that some sighted person is doing accessibility testing with the voice speed set to slow so of course there's no issue for them, they're not moving faster than the slippery cursor haha.

Also, I've not seen this brought up but for I think at least two versions of iOS now when entering text in a form field, the first word is never spoken with Voiceover. I've been kind of ignoring it for years but realized this is a pretty obnoxious bug, especially if you're trying to enter your username or search for a single word or just want to be sure you typed what you think you did when texting someone.

Hello

For those who own older devices such as myself. If you have an iPhone XR, how is the performance of that particular device running 16.2

I am still on 15.7.1

Was worried that if I update the software, will it lag using Voiceover?

Thanking in advance, for any replies.

I wonder what happened to the custom accessibility interface that some articles were talking about during the beta?

Did that get pulled at the last minute?

Or is that going to be saved for iOS 17.

As you guys said, all versions of iOS16 appear to be very unstable with VoiceOver focus issues.Not just the recent call page, the problem of unstable focus is manifested in all the operation pages you may come into contact with.For example, I often press and hold the App Store icon on the desktop and select Update in the pop-up menu to check the latest version of the APP. Since I upgraded to iOS16, this operation has become very unreliable. When I click "Update" After that, VoiceOver would often click the "Delete" option by mistake, and then the iPhone would ask me if I wanted to delete the App Store or remove it from the desktop.In addition, when I receive several notification messages in a row, I have to wait for VoiceOver, because once I operate the iPhone like iOS15, VoiceOver will definitely crash.I'm using an iPhone 13 Pro, and I think my hardware is advanced enough, so that's the problem with VoiceOver.

The braille bug was fixed for me as soon as I updated. I had to reset the brailliant and the bug is back is there a way to have it revert to it was doing having enter key work?

I'll say to Siri, "Read my message." And he'll say, "To who?" and I have to repeat my request. Or when I ask him to read a message and say something like, "Reply to Sharlene." He'll then say, "What do you want to know about Sharlene?" And the other day I asked him to start the song I was listening to over again, and he played a totally different song. This is why I think Siri needs hearing aids!

I have experienced similar problems but I have found that if you wait an extra beat or extra second after the SIRI sound, SIRI will work a thousand times better. I believe what is happening most of the time if you don't wait this extra beat or second is SIRI is missing the first word or 2 of your request. Not saying SIRI will be perfect but I have found that most all of the problems are solved by using this technique.

Hi Karee, I tried your suggestion of waiting about a second or so before responding to Siri. That really worked. I would have never thought to do that. Thanks for the tip. So Siri hasn't lost his hearing. It's the impatient operator!

I agree with the person who was complaining about Siri, when I hear the tone, I expect it to be ready to listen right away as it was in previous versions.
I agree with the weather app now, it's nearly impossible to choose your location from the list now. Hopefully this will be fixed soon.

Its just a wild guess, but from what I remember, the old siri tone in ios 15 and below was significantly shorter than this one, hense the waiting after the tone sounds.

Here's a strange bug for you to think about. When I am entering text in a text field using the regular keyboard on iOS 16l2, if M an entering something like an e-mail address, instead of saying "period" right next to the "at" sign, my phone honestly said "full stop". For example, ted at Yahoo full stop com.

On a separte note, Siri makes me use language that could teach Samuel L. Jackson a thing or two, whether it's just plain slow or completely gets wrong what I say.

well, I updated it. and I found the shutdown sound is gone...

So go to the focus indictor on the lockscreen and swipe down and you should hear "Open Focus Settings". You can click that. But yes if you don't it won't work.

I was having those exact same problems. The reasoning makes sense and it works to wait a bit.

I've never seen this and didn't find anything that soubded like it on the lock screen or home screen or in settings. Do you have more information?

Edit: my mistake, I was so hopeful this was about fixing the cursor focus but I think you're talkibg about the productivity settings

It is the focus indicator—the indicator on the lock screen and notification center when a focus mode is active. If you clicked on said indicator on the lockscreen before ios16.2 it would open a little focus settings popup. Now, there is a bug where that action doesn't work with VO on and you have to swipe down for the custom action "Open Focus Settings" instead.

Another bug I haven't seen reported but which I've experienced on three phones now: Voiceover will frequently not open anything in the dock on the home screen. It will just read the item names but if you want to open anything you have to quit Voiceover and restart it. There's no indication of why this happens, sometimes it just appears randomly.

Has anyone had the following issue. After opening the contacts app and making a call, I cannot dismiss the contacts app to get to the home screen. I have to toggle off VoiceOver. I then slide my finger up the screen like a non VoiceOver user would do to get to the home screen. I then toggle VoiceOver back on and am able to use the iPhone as usual. I am using an iPhone 11 and running iOS 16.2. Just wondering. Thanks.

Does anyone know how I may be able to get the enter key to work as it should once again? It worked just after installing ios 16.2 but once I restarted brailliant it reverted.